>>>>>>>>>Hear, hear!
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>>>>>>>>>Although late to this party, I'm with you. No self-respecting libertarian could look at Obama's positions and then vote for him. His position is insanely pro-union, increased taxes, increased government...this guy literally is the anti-libertarian.
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>>>>>>>>Yeah, but what is the alternative?? You've got no alternative. Do you really think mcCain can get rid of the replican inheritance of misery they brough you the last 8 years? He will get your country in even more dept than it already is.
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>>>>>>>But Obama, even more so...
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>>>>>>Why do you think so?
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>>>>>It's obvious if you look at his policies listed on his website and what he has been speaking about in all of his speaches. I've posted about his tax plans and handouts before.
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>>>>I did ask you how do you think that obama gets a country more in dept. Tax plans don't cut it. The money raised from taxes stays in the US economy. So taxes don't have a direct influence on the national dept.
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>>>>Fighting an ongoing war will make some companies rich (weapon industry), but that money is seldomly returned to the US government.
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>>>>So please tell me, how obamas plans have more negative effects than mcCain?
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>>>I guess I missed the part specifying 'national debt.' I was thinking tax plans and the cost to Americans (BAD FOR AMERICANS and one of my biggest concerns), not the national debt (loans). As to the national debt, analysis does show that McCain's plans will increase it more than Obama, although both will do so in the trillions:
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>>>http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411693_CandidateTaxPlans.pdf
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>>>One thing neither of the two candidates have spoken on enough is how to decrease the national debt by decreasing spending.
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>>Well I'd be more concerned about the national dept rather than the short term influences of increased tax. The national dept is something you'll pass to your children. The tax you pay could be the savings for your children. The national dept is something very dangerous that could lead a country into bankrupcy, Taxes don't. Noone wants to pay taxes, but they serve the purpose to fund things that are (hopefully) beneficial to all citizens.
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>No. Raising taxes only serve to give the government more leeway to increase spending which then in turn increases the national debt and it goes on and on.
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>Your premise would only work with a government that would stop spending. The spending needs to stop, not just continuously take more money out of American's pockets to pay for it.

Then vote for the candidate who will spend the least and gives you the best financial forecast for the future.