>>>>>The church states that abortion is wrong except in the case where the mother's life is in danger, rape, or incest.
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>>>>>Which again, I disagree with. What if the mother emotionally can't handle the pregnancy?
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>>>>That's one of the reasons why I feel that males really have little right to even enter into the debate, let alone create laws around it. If you can't ever suffer the consequences of the laws you create, then you have no right to create them.
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>>>What a point. It can disclaim any law in a moment. It seems your emotions get in a way of thinking. Please, do not get offended, this whole issue, abortion, got politicized to the brink of idiocy, many people happily marching over the brink.
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>>I just feel that if a person cannot possibly ever suffer the effects of a law, then any laws on the issue should be made by someone else to whom the after effects will apply. I'm not advocating the lack of laws, but when laws are created, they should be just as applicable to the people who create them as to everyone else.
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>>I feel much the same way about (in our case) parliamentarians creating laws that allow parliamentarians to discount something like 30% of their salary when filing income tax forms. It's just plain wrong. In this case it's the reverse. They create favourable laws that only apply to themselves.
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>I see a contradiction between 1st and 2nd paragraph of your message. By the preamble you could support people creating laws biased for themselves.

Nope. I do not support people making laws that are only for themselves nor do I support people making laws only for others that do not affect themselves. I don't see any contradiction at all.

>Seriously, Alan, do you propose that abortions should be exempted from any laws, or that these laws should be drafted and voted exclusively by women of child-bearing age?

I don't support the lack of laws, but I also, as I said don't support people making laws that only affect other people and not themselves. This is a bit of a dichotamy because men making abortion laws are making laws only for other people, while women of child bearing age would only be making laws for themselves, and to be perfectly honest, I don't really have an answer for you. Let me sleep on it. Maybe there simply is no good answer, and we just have to make the best of a bad situation. Like I said, let me sleep on it.

One thing I do feel is wrong though, is the idea of a president who allows his own ideology to become law. If he is going to make laws based strictly on ideology, then maybe a referendum is in order. Sometimes even a president has to realise that he is not God.