>>In regards to Obama's votes, on the issue of whether or not a doctor should be able to kill a baby that has been delivered, I say that is clear. I understand your position is positional. It depends on whether or not the baby has cleared the chute. What is the difference? If you stand on one corner, or another, and you get shot, isn't it still murder?
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>>I think a baby is a baby from the time it is conceived, and certainly moreso as it ages. People say it's a woman's choice. That's the same argument slaveowners used when dealing with their "property". They could kill them, sell them, abuse them, etc, because they weren't human. Well, I believe they were human, and unborn children are no more "property" than slaves were.
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>Very well put.

Thanks, I think if we frame the argument and give some parallel situation, like slavery, our liberal friends might be able to see things more clearly. When it comes to basic human rights, I do believe - one size fits all.