I know I should stay out of this but ...

the better man/woman than I am thing was in relation to Naomi's joking about Marcia getting Andy, her husband to write that answer - it had nothing to do with you.

As to the debugger, I think a whole lot of people would roll their eyes if somebody said they never used the debugger in VFP or in VS. I can see that in fpw 2.6 is might have been seen as hardly worth it, but the idea of not stepping through code, using watch
windows or, in VS, the visualizers, tooltips etc. just sounds masochistic. Of course you're entitled to use wait windows or messageboxes, or debugout or whatever but I think it is fair to say that would sound plain crazy to most developers - and would certainly not be something I'd share in a job interview <g>

I don't think anyone got offended (except perhaps you) I think you just saw an expression of incredulity.

The most telling part of the post for me is when you buttressed what is basically a best practices issue by a statement about how long you've been doing the very thing that was being questioned <bg>

But as you say, i've never walked in your shoes - or had to debug your code.



>>>>>WOW !!!! Are you telling me that you always write bug-free code and have never had to figure out why something in your program wasn't working as it should be? I am suitable impressed!
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>>>>>You are a much better man than I am!
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>Are you nuts?
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>I just am used to putting print outs (i.e. messagebox, console output) in my code where the bug seems to be occuring so I know what's going on, I find the problem and then I fix it.
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>I can't believe how offended you got! Then, in another post, you make it about being a man or woman. I think you should calm down and not jump to conclusions. Then, if you are woman enough, you should be kind and apologize. Your post, and subsequent remark, was rude.
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>To answer your next question: why don't I use debuggers? For many years I programmed in 32-bit protected mode assembly language and we did not have debuggers (like we have today) - and I grew used to putting in print outs in the code - it works for me. Also, for many years I worked with Clipper (I think from version Winter '85 (If I am correct) and onwards), and there as no debugger with Clipper. So I just never used a debugger. I don't use the VS2008 debugger because my windows are all DLLs opened through reflection and it's just easier to use print outs in the code.
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>To end: not once in my posts have I said I don't have bugs, I just said I have never used the debuggers in any development tools.
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>I've been programming since the early 1980s and it's what works for me. If you have not walked in another person's shoes, you should not be so fast to judge.