I don't think there would be any more chance of Obama getting a second chance in 2012 than there would have been support this year for a Howard Dean or John Kerry bid.

But Kucinich will be rested and ready and with Michael Moore as a running mate ...

>There is a problem with that scenario. If McCain wins, in 2012 Obama will come back to the race with 4 years of experience... :o) Isn't he still a Senator in the U.S. Senate?
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>>Actually I really believe the Clintons are working on engineering a work of unsurpassed political gamesmanship and subtlety, which I think they have the chops to pull off - i.e. HRC will personally appear to be a big Obamaniac, Bill will not do anything overt enough to be an obvious millstone weighing down HRC's sincerity, but behind the scenes they will sabotage Obama's chances in the general election and assure both a McCain victory and a sure Clinton candidacy in 2012. I don't think they have any vested interest in doing anything else. By 2016 she'll be irrelevant. 2012 is her last shot and the one thing the Clintons are absolutey sure of is that it is all about them.
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>>>>Now John, I don't think this is the time for Hillary's faithful to be jumping ship ... there is still the vote at the convention where I think they should remain faithful and strong and loud and ....
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>>>>( would all those who think HRC wants Obama to win the November election please meet in the phone booth in the lobby... )
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>>>I knew some of them weren't going to accept defeat graciously or go quietly. It's like one of those horror movies .... Hillary and her undead walking zombie-like towards the convention center in Denver ....

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