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31/08/2008 10:17:43
 
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Politics
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Miscellaneous
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01343122
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I believe you are too forgiving on items 2 and 3 and have glossed over the reality...

But on another note, why has no one added to my list on McCain? I see plenty of heated anti-McCain comments in many threads. Maybe there will be more participation this week. I really hoped to have a fair list of the concerns on BOTH candidates here. Each person can research the items themselves and determine how they feel (if at all) about it.




>This is too much. I will stop being polite. You are 100% full of BS and spin. For your possible edification (unlikely):
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>1. Calling Obama a Chicago machine politician is so far off the mark it's comical. You know squat about Chicago politics. You haven't seen Mayor Daley lift a finger for him, have you? He somehow managed to infiltrate Chicago Democratic politics from the outside, losing one election to Bobby Rush in the process. (That time he really did go too soon). There is a well known local anecdote about Obama knocking on doors of local leaders when he first decided to move from community organizing on the South Side to statewide office. He shows up at the guy's office and says he wants to see him. A flunky brings the answer back: Who sent you? Nobody sent me. The answer comes back: If nobody sent him I don't want to see him.
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>2. Obama was about 15 when William Ayers was in the Weather Underground and gained his notoriety. He was nowhere near Chicago. Needless to say, they had no association. Ayers has since joined the establishment, to the extent that even Mayor Daley speaks well of him, and got to know Obama in community efforts in that capacity.
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>3. Rev. Wright's inflammatory remarks have been his own, not anyone else's. They do not reflect the views of Barack Obama. Obama has been guilty of no more than being slow to condemn mentors who have helped him politically. If you want to call it cold eyed politics, go ahead, that's fair enough. I thought we wanted a tough leader, don't we?
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>Sometimes I hold my tongue out of collegiality and sometimes I feel the need to swing back. Obviously, this is one of them. These baseless slanders -- such as the "fact" that Barack Obama is Muslim, which 12% of Americans believe -- will not go unchallenged. He has rare leadership potential and I am not going to stand by idly and watch him be Swift boated. If you're going to spread BS here, I will get in your face about it every single time.
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>>There are some media sources who do the homework and raise red flags on Obama and others. But it doesn't make it to the morning papers which your average American draws his knowledge from. Let's be real here - if a Republican had the kind of associations Obama has had with Wright, Ayers, and the perpetually corrupt Chicago political machine it would be front page news, histrionically so, until he or she was hounded out of the race.
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>>>I may not agree with everything you say, but this is the only point I would jump on. If this is true, then how is that that you all know so much about his voting record, who he played with in college, who his religious friends supposedly are, and all the rest of the dirt. All from personal interviews?
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>>>Ah. Ok, you said 'some' media. So I take it then that there is also 'some' media that does exactly the opposite? In which case, what's your point?
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