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31/08/2008 23:05:19
John Baird
Coatesville, Pennsylvania, United States
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Politics
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>>>>This is too much. I will stop being polite. You are 100% full of BS and spin. For your possible edification (unlikely):
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>>>>1. Calling Obama a Chicago machine politician is so far off the mark it's comical. You know squat about Chicago politics. You haven't seen Mayor Daley lift a finger for him, have you? He somehow managed to infiltrate Chicago Democratic politics from the outside, losing one election to Bobby Rush in the process. (That time he really did go too soon). There is a well known local anecdote about Obama knocking on doors of local leaders when he first decided to move from community organizing on the South Side to statewide office. He shows up at the guy's office and says he wants to see him. A flunky brings the answer back: Who sent you? Nobody sent me. The answer comes back: If nobody sent him I don't want to see him.
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>>>I lived in Chicago during the 90's and NOBODY breaks into Chicago politics from the outside. You have to be for sale to the highest bidder to get ahead in that mafia machine. Once the digging starts, the facts will come out.
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>>>>2. Obama was about 15 when William Ayers was in the Weather Underground and gained his notoriety. He was nowhere near Chicago. Needless to say, they had no association. Ayers has since joined the establishment, to the extent that even Mayor Daley speaks well of him, and got to know Obama in community efforts in that capacity.
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>>>Whatever, where there's smoke, there's fire. We'll see.
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>>>>3. Rev. Wright's inflammatory remarks have been his own, not anyone else's. They do not reflect the views of Barack Obama. Obama has been guilty of no more than being slow to condemn mentors who have helped him politically. If you want to call it cold eyed politics, go ahead, that's fair enough. I thought we wanted a tough leader, don't we?
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>>>SLOW? Lets see slow in my mind is a couple of weeks or a couple of months, not, what, 20 years. Had I been a member of a church, where the pastor spouted such bigoted crap, I'd a been outta there in a heartbeat, but obviously it must have been somthing that Obama and family were not to upset with, until the media got a hold of it. Then, to save his election chances he denounces the person, he called "His dearest friend and mentor".
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>>>>Sometimes I hold my tongue out of collegiality and sometimes I feel the need to swing back. Obviously, this is one of them. These baseless slanders -- such as the "fact" that Barack Obama is Muslim, which 12% of Americans believe -- will not go unchallenged. He has rare leadership potential and I am not going to stand by idly and watch him be Swift boated. If you're going to spread BS here, I will get in your face about it every single time.
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>>>OOOOOooooo don't know about JohnK but I'm shaking in my boots. It amazes me how easily the left can let pass/shrug off behavior that you would crucify the right for. When you look at the facts, take off the rose-colored glasses and take a closer look.
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>>I don't think I have rose-colored glasses on.
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>>Where in or around Chicago did you live in the 1990s?
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>I lived on Goerte street in a condo right off Michigan Avenue. I worked at State and Dearborn. My Grandparents and Parents were from Illinois. I have lots of family in Illinois to this day including my son and his family.

State and Dearborn? Don't they run parallel? IAC I worked at State and Wacker for years. Well, the office was there. I was usually out in the field, all over the U.S.
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