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This year's John Blutarsky Memorial Scholar
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09/09/2008 14:23:17
 
 
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>>>>>>>The Wright thing got plenty of "ink," so I don't think you can claim the media ignored that. I know Ayres bothers you, but as someone else pointed out, Obama was a kid when Ayres was a radical, and Ayres seems to have since joined the mainstream. I know plenty of folks who were pretty radical in the 60's who are still liberal, but working inside the system today.
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>>>>>>That's what I can't figure out. How does someone who has admitted to participating in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972 join the mainstream? Why association with someone like that is acceptable is beyond me...
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>>>>>Because what we do when we're young isn't the whole story of our lives?
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>>>>>Tamar
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>>>>I'll agree with that but I also think committing acts of terrorism and NOT paying the price for those actions shouldn't put you in mainstream later in life either (especially not with presidential candidates and senators or public figures)
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>>>>It wasn't just a matter of a misdeaner for Pete's sake...
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>>>I don't know enough about the Ayers (which is apparently the right spelling) case to make a judgment, but apparently, he wasn't prosecuted because of misbehavior by the prosecutors. And while he didn't pay the price of prison, I suspect living underground for years did exact some price.
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>>>Tamar
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>>Still I cannot agree completely. Sure it exacted some price. But sufficient for acts of terrorism he has admitted to? You can't be serious...
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>Tracy
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>I'll point you again at Menachim Begin and Martin McGuiness as a couple of examples.
>Ultimately there are very few terrorists you don't end up talking to.

Just to be clear, since you mentioned them twice, Begin and the Irgun and McGuiness and the IRA did not consider themselves citizens of the countries they attacked, but saw themselves as underground fighters in wars of national liberation.

Ayers was trying to alter the policies of his own government through acts of terror. Had we officially been at war, this would have been capital treason. If you bombed Whitehall to protest the Falkland War I don't think you'd expect to be standing for office.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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