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>>>>>>>>>>>>I am sure they now feel very good about themselves and those who find their findings valuable will get a little frisson of righteousness as well.
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>>>>>>>>>>>You're shooting the wrong messenger.
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>>>>>>>>>>Not shooting any messengers, just musing on soi disant judges of those with whom they do not share common interests, common goals or common responsibilities.
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>>>>>>>>>In any legal system, I don't see how the judges and the accused share any interests, goals or responsibilities. On most of those, they are on opposite ends.
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>>>>>>>>This does not represent a legal system, it represents a self-appointed group who put on a show to validate "findings" which would better be described as ideological opinions. they are entitled to the opinions, just not the self-annointed righteousness. The people they are "indicting" are actual elected government officials with responsibilities only to the people who elected them. If you want to be legalistic, this kangaroo court has no "standing".
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>>>>>>>I also find it amusing that, of all the world, this would happen, and be publicized, in Japan. The country which has learned so much from the US... but is very sensitive to matters of war.
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>>>>>>But still seems to have problems with Nanking, comfort girls, Bataan ... Another major component were Germans.
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>>>>>>I guess if you are going to be tried for war crimes, it may as well be by people who brought it to a whole new level.
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>>>>>>Wanna bet if the North Korean's start missile testing in the direction of Hakkaido again the Japanese will be real glad they've got Atsugi, Okinawa and some other little places where there is Yankee stuff tucked away. A mini 9/11 in Germany or France would bring out stuff that has made anything we've done in Guantanamo look like kid stuff.
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>>>>>Perhaps due to this link:
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>>>>>http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Scholar_links_Bush_s_US_and_Hirohit_10312007.html
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>>>>>Bush is now being tried here by a law school as well:
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>>>>>http://www.opednews.com/articles/LAW-SCHOOL-TO-ORGANIZE-BUS-by-Sherwood-Ross-080615-783.html
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>>>>>I guess we'll know the results soon...
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>>>>But so much of this is like "courageous" Hollywood taking a left-wing position. Courageous would be taking a right-wing position. In a Mass. law school, trying Pinch Sulzburger or Michael Moore for treason would be kind of interesting (though equally silly). This is just academic masturbation.
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>>>Hollywood taking a right-wing position would be nothing. Remember the Dixie Chicks and what they were put through? Had they taken a right wing position and rah-rahed Bush and the war how much trouble do you think it would have caused them?
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>>Are you kidding? The only criticism the Dixie Chicks got came from *outside* the entertainment industry. Michael Moore is the darling of Hollywood and Cannes. Barbara Streisand and the Malibu glitteratti are hardly right-wingers. Expressing any support for the administration for the last eight years was a very good way to not work in Hollywood. Exactly whom do you thing David Geffin or Steven Speilberg raises money for? Standing up at the Oscars and saying Dick Cheney is Hitler is a positive career move (at least in the industry - doesn't play quite as well to the TV audience but then those are just the grubby little red-state people in the fly-over states and what do they know about international affairs compared to intellectual heavy-weights like Madonna, Gwyneth Paltrow or Susan Sarandon.)
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>2nd response. Can you name some of the actors who have been blackballed for siding with the administration? I didn't see Heston or Sellick or Rourke losing work because of their stances. In fact it looks like Mickey Rourke is doing quite well.

I have no idea what Mickey Rourke's politics are. (nor would I care if I knew) I do not know of one Hollywood personality who has suffered for a leftist political orientation in the last 50 years. Most who don't share that point of view keep quiet about it. Those like Dennis Miller who are outspoken in contempt for celebrities adopting politics like Kabala are reviled.

It is more social ostracism than black-listing. And I have no doubt that box-office and bank ability Trump everything (otherwise Tom Cruise would be laughed out of town ;-)

But please, the idea that somehow not being a supporter of the current administration is a liability in Hollywood or most of the media empires is laughable.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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