>>>>>>>>>>>>BTW China is today booming economically rather then collapsing, nagging right back at your theory :)
>>>>>>>>>>>China adopted capitalist methods and gave some freedom to the citizens to achieve the so called success. :)
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>>>>>>>>>>Yep quiet a bit. They addopted also one of major capitalist 'utility vehicles' for exploitation of the unfortunate people.
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>>>>>>>>>>It is called ILLEGALS
>>>>>>>>>>While factories are booming in Bejing , Shangay etc, massive numbers of people from rural China are flocking to towns
>>>>>>>>>>in order to get jobs, have better life in the big shiny city , etc.
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>>>>>>>>>>There comes handy 'catch 22' ;
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>>>>>>>>>>You need 'permission' for comming to live and work in Bejing for instance. And permission is hard or impossible to obtain!
>>>>>>>>>>So now they are thousands of 'city illegals' who are stripped of any legal rights, living often in dumpsters, working for peanuts, being cheated on pay, reported to authorities etc.
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>>>>>>>>>>Sounds familiar ?
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>>>>>>>>>no
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>>>>>>>>Huh, I forgot u r cannadian ;0)
>>>>>>>Thank you. :})
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>>>>>>Of an Irish descent ?
>>>>>>[ Or flag is just for camouflaging your geoposition ;) ]
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>>>>>Irish decent
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>>>>Huh, what am I asking; even your name is green-white-orange
>>>>Grady McCue cannot possibly imply norvegian ancestors ;o)
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>>>Skogen can (my surname)
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>>How did you arive at Holzer ?
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>>What is Holzer
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>My ex-husband's name...

I tought so, but was not sure, as today's fashion is to keep maiden name as part of (or entire) second name.