>It's hard to say what will happen in the short term with all the manipulation going on and the elections coming up, but I see 10K easy, probably 9K before the end of the year. Still a lot of level 3 crap out there and I don't see real estate turning until the inventories come down and that won't happen until we get all the alt-a resets and foreclosures behind us.

What was DJ supposed to be now if it didn't move for the last 10 or 20 years, just adjusted for inflation? I wonder.