>>>>I would like to hear that as well. I've read a few sites on the web, but frankly, you can't trust the web as being the view of the majority. I don't know about all of them, but I do know (from Metin's posts) that Turkey teaches in school that the Armenian genocide didn't happen and you can read in the message link I posted above what the Turkish formal historical view of Turkey/Bulgaria is (I guess that should be Ottoman).
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>>>AFAIK, they are teached that the events are not classified as genocide, rather than that they'd never took place.
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>>>What bothers me most here, is the attitude of "You have no right to critisize the US, because your past or helped you out in WWII or whatever reason". Sometimes an argument is countered with the delibered search of arguments (digging) about the other country, its afairs, without actually understanding the context, background or even credibility.
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>>>It is just a matter that your culture and politics are heavily exported to the rest of the world. The rest of the world has a pretty good grasp on the american culture, politics and history. The reverse however is not true.
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>>So genocide denial bothers you less than some Americans having 'arrogance' pointing on it. It is very surprising, Walter. Who could imagine that you say anything else?
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>I didn't read it that way - but as "this maneuver to disable any critics". Of course one can find dirty stuff in any country's history. That is what history is made of (and the reason why I don't like how it's written; any slaughterer is remembered more than the best artists he paid with blood money). And, well, when I hear that in Vietnam war there were 52000 dead - isn't that a genocide denial? Where are the three million?
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>Actually, if anyone cares to dig deep enough in history, I guess there'll be not just bloody thrones, enslaved people, chopped heads etc, but also cannibals, if we only go far enough. And I also don't think that Walter forgot that Netherlands was a colonial power too.
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>So, if the prevailing theory is that who lives in a glass house shouldn't cast the first stone, then we can simply stop talking about politics altogether and go for a drink of our choice, eh?

The UN definition of genocide is:

"any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

I'm with you. Everyone go get a beer...