>>>>>I would like to hear that as well. I've read a few sites on the web, but frankly, you can't trust the web as being the view of the majority. I don't know about all of them, but I do know (from Metin's posts) that Turkey teaches in school that the Armenian genocide didn't happen and you can read in the message link I posted above what the Turkish formal historical view of Turkey/Bulgaria is (I guess that should be Ottoman).
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>>>>AFAIK, they are teached that the events are not classified as genocide, rather than that they'd never took place.
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>>>>What bothers me most here, is the attitude of "You have no right to critisize the US, because your past or helped you out in WWII or whatever reason". Sometimes an argument is countered with the delibered search of arguments (digging) about the other country, its afairs, without actually understanding the context, background or even credibility.
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>>>>It is just a matter that your culture and politics are heavily exported to the rest of the world. The rest of the world has a pretty good grasp on the american culture, politics and history. The reverse however is not true.
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>>>So genocide denial bothers you less than some Americans having 'arrogance' pointing on it. It is very surprising, Walter. Who could imagine that you say anything else?
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>>Edward, you seem to make an ART out of reading something that is not stated.
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>>Should I be worried about human rights that were violated in the past, or should I be more concerned about preventing it happening again? So if someone points out the violation of human rights right now, that worries me much more that human rights that were violated in past. Should I be mad about the current Germans being responsible for the millions of deaths in two world wars, or should I be mad at the ones that currently did not learn from it and continue to violate human rights ??
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>>I have every right to critisize (freedom of speech) the US government violating human rights, no matter what my country ( or any country for that matter) have done wrong. You have the right to critisize my country on whatever you like (as long as you have a clue what you're talking about).
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>Did I question your rights? I just pointed to the specific feature in your attitude. You said, after another poster denied genocide event,

Where did you read that? I've not seen anyone denying the genocide event.

> following phrase: "What bothers me most here, is the attitude of: You have no right to critisize the US, because your past or helped you out in WWII or whatever reason". So, this situation, i.e. American attitude, bothers you more than the denial. Imho, your last message just confirmed it one more time.

Denial, in my book, is less worriesome than deliberate violations of human rights. Denial, is a too complex phenonima to label it as evil. Denial, often is done out of ignorance or shame. As long as measurement are taken such events cannot happen again, I can live with denial, even considering how painfull that could be to others.

I don't know enough about the armenian genocide, but I know enough about the holocaust. Last year on the plane, I was chatting with a woman living in the US, but originating from Iran (I can tell you that was an interesting conversation). She was not entirely denying the holocaust, but refused to believe that 6 million jews were killed during the holocaust. Well, what to say, she is living in an entire different world than I am and she was raised under controlled media, so how should she know? (There is something to be said for that the media is controlled in the US as well though).

In short. Was I suprised? No. Should I worry about this? not really, as long as this does not happen again.