>>>>>>>>>>>Nancy Pelosi says the Rs failed, but, as Sheppard Smith pointed out, the Ds have the votes to pass this thing, without the Rs. Then she wants to rail against the Rs for this mess, when the whole housing thing was brought about by the Ds forcing lending agencies to loan money to people who could not pay.....
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>>>>>>>>>>Come on John. The Dems voted to pass it, and the Reps voted to kill it. If a mere 12 of the 133 Rep 'no' votes had been 'yes' votes, it would have passed. You can spin this any way you want, but the vote went the way it did and it's on record. I even see that Pelosi voted to pass it.
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>>>>>>>>>What if 12 Dems voted yes? It comes to generics, Alan. Let's look at this board. As I see it, correct me if I am wrong, Democrats essentially supported the bill, and Republicans not. Would it be difficult to put your vote where your words are?
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>>>>>>>>Dems supported it and Reps did not. Yes. That's exactly what I said. John wants to blame the Dems for not passing the bill, but it was the reps who overwhelmingly voted against it. What was it you thought I said?
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>>>>>>>But that's not true. House members from both parties voted both for and against it. It was not a party line vote. Democrats voted for it 140-95. Repubicans voted against it 133-65. Those votes don't support blaming either party solely.
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>>>>>>No, it was not a strictly party line vote. All I was pointing out to John, after he tried to blame the whole failure to pass on the dems, is that had 12 more reps voted to pass it, it would have passed. Blaming the failure on the dems is strictly baised spin.
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>>>>>Pelosi blamed the Republicans.
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>>>>And she was wrong, but certainly closer to the mark than John who blamed the dems. At least the majority of dems voted to pass it. The reps voted overwhelmingly to reject. The numbers are there for anybody to see.
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>>>Yes. 1/3 of the majority party voted it (a bill they control since they have the majority) out.
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>>So, you hold the dems accountable because they didn't vote unanimously, but you hold no fault with the reps who only needed 12 changed votes?
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>Yes.

Hmmm... no bias there.