>>>The sad part is that the owners are Chinese and are trying to get their citizenship. They were so startled and dissappointed. One of the owners told my daughter that he couldn't believe it - it was almost just like China here afterall. The only difference was that you could say no and they wouldn't drag you down there to vote as they wanted you to or threaten your family if you didn't.
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>>Well, there ya go - if it can happen in the land of the free, imagine what goes on elsewhere ...
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>Elsewhere there's the overall assumption that the system is corrupt and that there'll be attempts to stuff the ballots by this or that party, so nobody trusts anybody and everybody watches over everybody else. The vote counters are at least three people, if there are more then three parties, they can have observers. Each party sends the results to its local HQ, and they all total them independently at their central HQs and the same hierarchy in the state apparatus, and they all publish it immediately on their websites - any discrepancy, be it by two votes, is obvious right away.
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>Now if those backwater countries can do it, surely the great superpower could do as well, if it wanted to.

If that wasn't a crooked election in south Florida in 2000 then I'm a monkey's uncle.

Actually I live in one of the world headquarters of crooked elections. Usually it's on the up and up because Chicago is such a Democratic city, but when ballot boxes need to be stuffed, stuffed they will be.