With the MAC continuing to move up and the Big Ten continuing to drop down, I don't think the gap between them is all that great any more. There is still a gap -- lots of MAC players are guys who didn't get Big Ten scholarship offers -- but it's shrinking.

>I've gotta say I didn't see the Browns win coming. I don't have much faith in the coaching (look at the penalties) but the offensive and defensive coordinators really stepped up on this one - even a bit of that Flash offense Miami is using to such great effect. Delightfully surprised by the whole thing.
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>College ball gets weirder all the time - Toledo over That School Up North - wow.
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>>>This is why God loves the NFL
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>>>At the 2 minute warning the Browns are up over the Giants by 3 touchdowns.
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>>>Underdogs everywhere, take heart.
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>>I am not shocked by that. I thought the Browns are better than their record, and the Giants not as good. Maybe this will be the kick start the Browns need.
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>>Here there is a great gnashing of teeth about the Bears' decision to squib kick with 11 seconds left and a one point lead. The Falcons completed a sideline route (GREAT game by rookie QB Matt Ryan), then kicked the game winner with 1 second left. It was an absolutely perfect pass -- any longer and time would have run out, any shorter and it would have been out of field goal range. It was the first Bears game I have seen this season and very exciting, although obviously I would have liked the opposite outcome.
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>>Patriots get thumped again -- I like it! Even with Brady out, seeing them lose is still satisfying.