>>
>>They are created this way be default so it must be either a fopah on Microsofts part or maybe it is just in MM this occurs. I will check that out.
>
>The (new) VS 2008 default doesn't do this; I'm guessing it's part of the MM.NET template.

You are indeed correct, I just created new pages both as MM and not. The MM page addes the title as "Untitled Page" and the standard ASP page sets it to an empty string.

Thanks Paul
Tim