What is 'all this?' I think you might want to become better informed. The War Within is about 2006-2008 the conception and execution of the surge and what else was happening while the surge was implemented that had a huge effect of the plummet of violence there :o)


>I think you may be embarrassed by the CIA's role in all this. You should be.
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>In fairness, the indictments of the CIA in books like "The Dark Side" and others have mostly been of the higher ups.
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>>I am just finishing Woodward's The War Within. If you haven't read it yet I recommend it. Fascinating stuff - and portrayals of Col H R Macmaster, Gen Keane and Gen Petreaus remind you that some really exceptional people do choose the military as a career.
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>>Oh and even if you don't have time to read it now, if you pass it in a bookstore just read page 380 about JSOC (Joint Military Assistance Command) - a blandly named incarnation of SOG "responsible for hunting Al Qaeda in Iraq ... using every tool available"
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>>"Derek Harvey, the DIA intelligence expert and adviser to Petraeus, said privately that the operations were so effective they gave him 'orgasms'.
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>>Bush: "JSOC is awesome."
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>>Ten years from now we may know - or the 25 rule may still be in effect - but thanks again to the watchers on the wall.
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>>>ROFL :o)
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>>>>One of the strongest features of The Vision of the Annointed is not having to revise any portion of the Vision, its assumptions or its world-view based on outcome.
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>>>>Those who Know Better will always Know Better because all the others who Know Better will always agree with them.
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>>>>Anyone who does not share that Vision is - by definition - stupid.
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>>>>>And now the rest of the world. Or are you still convinced the surge didn't work?
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>>>>>>What's even worse is that after saying it over and over a zillion times I think these two bozos actually belive it themselves.
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>>>>>>>After repeating over and over and over that everything is perfect in Irak they probably hope to increase those believing them.
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>>>>>>>>Cheney says the surge in Iraq (Pronounced 'i-wreck') is working.