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Try Obama's Redistribution of Wealth for Yourself
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04/11/2008 10:19:29
 
 
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>>>>Ok, I'm calling shenanigans...
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>>>>Show me where you're getting your facts....other than your fevered imagination. Show me exactly where Obama says he's going to do that. I want to see articles where he is quoted.
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>>>>>Well, the magic number is probably 1.00. If you don't pay taxes, but happen to be one of Obama's constituents, you'll get a check using funds from those of us who believe in working for what we get....
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>>>The Tax Policy Center analyzed Obama’s tax proposals (as described by his economic advisers) and concluded that in 2009, his plan would, in fact, result in $100-billion in government outlays to people who have no income tax liability. That figure would gradually inch up in ensuing years, to $111-billion in 2018.
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>>>The government already outlays nearly $53-billion to 57-million people (38 percent of all tax filers) who have a zero or negative income tax under current law. A negative income tax means that refundable tax credits amounted to more than the person’s income tax liability, meaning they got a check from the government. The Tax Policy Center estimates another 15-million people would fall into the "zero or negative income tax" category under Obama’s tax plan.

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>>>http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?DocID=1900
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>>>Did I misunderstand? I think that is what you are looking for...
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>>>I'm still looking for any specification in his actual plan that states wage earner, in other words, you have to earn a wage.
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>>Ah, then you'd have to file a tax return to qualify - which is QUITE different from "taking it from A to give to B". I fall into that category simply because I have taxed withheld at the single rate (filing joint) - 'cuz I don't like surprises at tax time - and we generally get a refund.
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>>That's still very different from what John (and other) have been screaming at the top of his/their lungs.
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>http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/1410.html
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>Not if you remember that you do not have to have an income in order to file a return. Many go down to the locations where tax returns are filed for free in order to file and get the money back from the government in a refund based on refundable tax credits:
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>http://money.cnn.com/2008/10/31/news/economy/taxes_welfare/?postversion=2008110308

Yet most of those refundable tax credits are tied to either job-related activities or supporting students and you still have to qualify for them. Still a far cry from 'money being taking from people who work and given to people to don't'.
"You don't manage people. You manage things - people you lead" Adm. Grace Hopper
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