>>>>>>>>>Our newspapers and TV's introduced Obama's elect as end of racism at USA. Is it just a wish?
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>>>>>>>>>http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/111208dntexklan.36c6b7b.html
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>>>>>>>>I would not call it an end of racism. I do think it shows we have come quite a ways, though.
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>>>>>>>I agree. The racism will stop with the end of affirmative action.
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>>>>>>Unlikely. I'm not a big fan either, but if you think racism doesn't transcend affirmative action, you're dreaming.
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>>>>>I think it's the other way around. You'll know the racism is gone when everybody agrees there's no need for affirmative action. IOW, when the negative action vanishes, so can the affirmative.
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>>>>No. When everybody agrees there's no need for affirmative action, and that agreement is not racially motivated, then maybe. But since a lot of racists hate the idea of affirmative action (not everybody who doesn't like it is racist, but some are), simple agreement that it's not needed is certainly not good enough.
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>>>There is a lot of racism implicit in the assumptions on which race-based affirmative action is based and on the paternalism some of the well-meaning folks who often defend it the most vehemently. Affirmative action is a very good idea. Race-based affirmative action is racist.
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>>I'm not a fan of affirmative action for a couple of reasons. The first reason is that it's inherently unfair. I know that the way many people operate is unfair without it, but taking an unfair situation and recreating it as an unfair situation in reverse doesn't really help. The second reason is that it engenders doubt. Did this person get the job because he/she was the best for the job, or was it because a quota needed filling? The doubt that is generated demeans both the doubter, and the doubtee. The system simply replaces animosity of one group with animosity of a different group.
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>But that is because race based affirmative action is targeted at a false group - skin pigmentation and assumptions about what that means - the very definition of racism.
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>Affirmative action that looks at individuals - how much opportunity they have had and what they have done with it, what personal potential they show, what financial or remedial need they may have to fulfill their potential - is in fact a leveling of the playing field. Skin pigmentation does not even have to be a factor if individuals are evaluated as individuals, as any discrimination they have suffered personally will come out in lack of opportunity and will be factored in.
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>I don't have a problem with that kind of affirmative action, and I don't think most other people would either. Affirmative action (or discrimination) on what Vonnegut called a 'grand falloon' creates resentment, doubt, paternalism and division.

I can't even begin to imagine how you would run such a system, and certainly not how you would do it expeditiously.

Oh, and more importantly, it's 'granfalloon'. ;)