>Srdjan, you are dead wrong.
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>NATO expansion has been supported by the Bush administration but it was the candidate countries themselves who pushed for it. They see it as a hedge against possible future Russian imperialism. I can understand the traditional Russian paranoia about potential adversaries on the border but to say that this is a construct of Bush is silly. Also, Russia is already an associate member of NATO, in case you were unaware.
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>A "friend in the new democratic Russia"? Have you been sleeping the last 10 years? The Russian government is moving more and more towards fascism and away from democracy. They are imprisoning or killing political adversaries. They have a youth movement called "Stal" which harrasses dissenters and intimidates political opponents. In come circles it's called the "Putin-Youth", analagous to the "Hitler Jugend".
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>Oh, did I mention the military missions to Venezuela and Cuba? Or the sale of arms to Iran? Yeah, that's peaceful.
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>We don't need a "peace at any price" approach to Russia. What we need is a carrot and stick approach: We're your best friends when you are friendly but piss us off and we are going to be your worst enemies.

Are you fiendly ? To whome exactly ?

I did not say it was solely Bush policies. Clinton did that as well. Durring the day he was dancing with Yeltsin
while overnigt varous 'activities' were taking place in the Russia's neighbourhood.

Democracy ?
Man you have Gitmo, Rendition squads, whole underworld of secret agencies gonne mad / out of control
Number of killed, kindapped, tortured under Bush administration runs in what __________ ?
And you are talking about Putin's Russia being this or that ?!?

Whom did you sell your guns last 10 years ?
And you still feel that Russia is somehow 'evergreen bad guy' and you should maintain standoff with them ?

Where have you been ? Things changed arround the world.
It is simply time to turn new page in international relations. Carrot & Stick no longer work.
There isn't any carrot left! You are only one left with the huge stick vawing in the air
in a world which refuses to be your warzone. (Hence support for Obama all over the world)

World wants to be peacefull social gathering.
Majority of US people realised this as well, and this is I believe what they voted for.
I vote for that to;

Peace