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16/11/2008 19:33:11
 
 
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>>>>>>> I believe Putin/Medvedev are leading Russia into becoming modern democracy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow. And as I remember you also believe the CIA or the Mossad or somebody did 911 (or that it was faked in a Hollywood studio ? ... can't remember now )
>>>>
>>>>Charles,
>>>>
>>>>I dd not mention Mossad in ANY of my posts. It was YOU who put Mossad into picture.
>>>>Do you know something I don't ?
>>>>
>>>>Until then
>>>>A) TWO planes knocked down THREE buildings (2 != 3 )
>>>>B) Zllion of security cameras around pentagon produced in total 4 frames of a single video of something that hit Pentagon
>>>>
>>>>Odd ? Clear as day ? Nothing intriguing here ?
>>>>
>>>>Give me your favorite conspiracy theory. I am big fan of conspiracy theories in general.
>>>>If you have scup to share be my guest, otherwise please do not come up with bananas like this.
>>>>
>>>>Sergio
>>>>
>>>
>>>I was commenting that your belief in Putin's intentions struck me as having the same quaility of analysis and knowledge of the world as your beliefs about the events of 9/11. Amusing but difficult to take seriously.
>>
>>This was cheap shot by all means.
>
>I didn't intend it as a cheap shot. I intended it as my opinion of your analysis of two things - Putin as interested in making Russia a 'modern democracy' and your expecting other people to take seriously your theories about 911 - simply because it doesn't make sense to you.
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>Seeing Putin as a strongman/oligarch who has skillfully seized power, controlled media, become one of the richest men in the world in oil and natural resources, enriched his cadre of former KGB folks, maintained power through his successor etc is hardly a fringe position and is certainly shared by a large number of Russians. I doubt even his fans would think his intention was to 'democratize' Russia (and would abandon him if it were) I am not judging him other than that - he's a Russian nationalist and I have no problem with the idea he is doing what he thinks is best for Russia (which, coincidentally is what is best for Putin and his supporters) Russia has seen worse.
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>The idea that this impression of Putin is somehow 'right-wing' is in itself amusing, given that he represents what could arguably be called Russia's 'right-wing'.
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>As to the events of 9/11 - believe what you like. A lot of people saw what happened. If you choose to believe something different do so. Just don't ask to be taken seriously or surprised if people shake their heads and smile.
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>I don't argue with Biblical fundamentalists, people who think the moon landings were faked in a Hollywood studio, Scientologists, African leaders who don't believe in AIDs, flat or hollow earth believers or holocaust deniers either. There are a lot of more interesting things to debate where there really is some room for doubt and discovery.
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>The fashion of post-modern deconstructionism has infected intellectual life and perpetuated the idea that one man's truth is as good as another's.
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>That and pornography account for the success of the internet ;-)
>
>
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>>As far as Russia is concearned, yes I expressed my beliefs (and you did not supply any arguments in contrary except standard www.rightwinger.com cr@p )
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>>As for 9/11, I did not express nothing of the sort. I expressed my doubts/questions of what does not make any sense to me. What bothers my logic even today after 7 years passed. When I cannot put peaces together that naturally rises my curiosity. When part of simple 'math problem' is 3000 lives, that makes me angry on top of it. I have no 'beliefs' in respect of 9/11, just questions.
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>>Now, if you reached some nirvana of eternal wisdom, where these simple 'math problems' are self explanatory then fine.
>>Not that I am impressed with your little equilibrium (I am not) , but it does make me wander how one rich that stage.
>>
>>Over & Out


I'm sure they are extending the presidential terms from 4 years to 6 simply because they love democracy. :o)
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