>>>When your agencies are running rendition program, kidnapping people arround the world, I call this 'waaay out of control'
>>>You might not want to see it as kidnapping and torturing and call it instead 'security measures to protect US citizens'
>>>but it does not make it any less bad. What is published is scarry enought and leads to this conclusion, now imaggine what is not
>>>published ? You don't expect to watch CIA heads chating with Lary King on rendition program do you ?
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>>What is this "rendition program" you keep bringing up. Can you clarify that? I don't think we are kidnapping and torturing people outside of the established warzones. It's far easier to track them with Predator drones and unleash Hellfire missiles. And, yes, I condone that
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>Rendition is when they arrest someone at the airport and then take him to some dark dungeon for questioning. No lawyer
>is alowed, no phone call. They end up in some 'facility' and/or shipped to friendly 'democracy' like Kazakstan or Azerbejan
>or Egypt for questioning. It could take months or years before person is released (If surviwe)
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This has been extensively reported in the U.S. Not sure how John missed it.