" I really have a problem with clueless managers who boss me around."

do you think your body language at work doesn't give away how you feel about who you work for to those very same managers .

Nick

>I don't think it's a problem. I see nothing wrong with expecting A+ work from myself and the people I work with. I am more than willing to make sacrifices with tight deadlines, but I don't habitually cut corners.
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>>The fact you are aware of a potential problem you may have means you are a long to resolving the problem (if it really is your problem)
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>>>The problem is, this is the second job in a row where I've had problems being satisfied. I don't know if I have just been unlucky twice in a row, or if the problem is with me... I really have a problem with clueless managers who boss me around.
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>>>>Get the promises in writing. When I switched from Reinsurance Underwriting to software development, I took a 1/3 cut in salary. It was worth it. If you hate your job, do yourself a favour and find something else.
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>>>>>I just got a job offer this morning. I have been getting really sick of the Dilbert-ness of my current job. I have talked to my manager and my manager's manager about it, so I have tried to address the issues.
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>>>>>The new place is a small local manufacturing facility. They have a 7-8 developer shop. I would be coming in as a Developer 1 for about 8% less than I am making now. They said after 6 months if I meet performance expectations (which I am confident I can) they would promote me to a Developer 2, and my salary would increase to about what I make now. I think I would fit in better at the new place because I have always really enjoyed manufacturing, and it seems like a somewhat laid back place. I interviewed with half the department and they seem like geeks, instead of the business stiffs I work for now. All of their systems are written in .NET, so I wouldn't have to struggle with the integrations between subpar vendored systems.
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>>>>>The benefits wouldn't be as good as my current job, but not by much. I think there would be a lot more potential at the new place. I am about ready to friggin lose my mind at my current place. Once jagoff told me I should start to learn Java and I was ready to fight him (not literally, but in my mind I had him up in a helicopter whirl).
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>>>>>What say you? I'm having a hard time getting around the money thing for the first few months. Even if it were just a miniscule amount more than I make now it would have given me a warm fuzzy that at least I am headed in the right direction money wise. However, I really do think that in 2-3 years I would be making more there than I would be here. They are a C# and Oracle shop, and I am a VB and SQL Server guy, but I'm fairly confident I can make the switch without too much trouble.
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>>>>>Anyway, I should probably just be happy that I have a job because I know some folks on here aren't as lucky.