Yes I did. Thanks for reminding me. I guess I could've just posted a link to that message and saved the typing... :o)


>>A few years ago I got a job offer with a well-known manufacturing firm. I won't give the name except to refer to them here-out as 'B&D' :o) I didn't take the job. Good thing too. A couple years later they closed the plant in my town. The city was furious. They had given them numerous concessions to have the plant. The city even named the road after them. When B&D announced the closure, the city moved the road so the road with their name still existed, just not the one the plant was one. The city renamed the road the plant was on and B&D had to change all of their correspondence and factory notices with the new address. Every single business relationship had to know of the new address and they had to update every consumer who had the old address for factory returns. Of course that would all have had to happen eventually anyway once the plant closed down. The city just forced them to do it earlier.
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>Didn't you write all this up a few months ago?
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>>Manufacturing scares me when it comes to job security. North Carolina has suffered numerous plant closures over the years. Just yesterday Hanes announced downsizing and the closure of another plant here.
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>>>I just got a job offer this morning. I have been getting really sick of the Dilbert-ness of my current job. I have talked to my manager and my manager's manager about it, so I have tried to address the issues.
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>>>The new place is a small local manufacturing facility. They have a 7-8 developer shop. I would be coming in as a Developer 1 for about 8% less than I am making now. They said after 6 months if I meet performance expectations (which I am confident I can) they would promote me to a Developer 2, and my salary would increase to about what I make now. I think I would fit in better at the new place because I have always really enjoyed manufacturing, and it seems like a somewhat laid back place. I interviewed with half the department and they seem like geeks, instead of the business stiffs I work for now. All of their systems are written in .NET, so I wouldn't have to struggle with the integrations between subpar vendored systems.
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>>>The benefits wouldn't be as good as my current job, but not by much. I think there would be a lot more potential at the new place. I am about ready to friggin lose my mind at my current place. Once jagoff told me I should start to learn Java and I was ready to fight him (not literally, but in my mind I had him up in a helicopter whirl).
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>>>What say you? I'm having a hard time getting around the money thing for the first few months. Even if it were just a miniscule amount more than I make now it would have given me a warm fuzzy that at least I am headed in the right direction money wise. However, I really do think that in 2-3 years I would be making more there than I would be here. They are a C# and Oracle shop, and I am a VB and SQL Server guy, but I'm fairly confident I can make the switch without too much trouble.
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>>>Anyway, I should probably just be happy that I have a job because I know some folks on here aren't as lucky.