>>>>He's cost us far too much already. Off with his head and be done with it. If they need help doing it, give me a call.
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>>>>I'm sure Tamar would disagree since she wants to let all criminals go free (because there's a chance that someone might have been wrongly convicted).
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>>>As usual, you mischaracterize my views. I have no problem putting real criminals in jail, if they're properly tried and convicted. (Process matters.) I do object to the state killing anyone in my name, no matter how much that person might deserve it.
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>>>I also think that jailing young people for minor offenses is likely to lead to a tremendous waste of human resources and that in many cases, we'd be better off trying to rehabilitate and educate. IOW, I think the justice system should be about justice, not about retribution.
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>>>Tamar
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>>I have no problem and actually prefer rehabilitating criminals who commit non-violent crimes. When it comes to habitual or repeat murderers though, no way. I agree rehabilitation should be the goal, but justice < > rehabilitation. Rehabilitation is not even in the legal definition of justice.
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>I don't think you and I have any serious disagreement here. We might disagree about particulars, but not about broad goals.
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>Tamar

What I cannot figure out is why the U.S. doesn't (or perhaps they are and the public or at least I am not aware of it) the rehabilitation systems overseas. There are some countries which seem (by reports) to be very successful at it. When our criminals go into prison, they often come out of it worse than when they entered.

I know we do have some very successful rehabilition systems around this country, but it is not the norm and many are test systems only.