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25/11/2008 10:22:01
 
 
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>I'm really concerned about the information you are getting from your media if your honest perception is that opponents of the U.S. government are all entered into a rendition program...

Perhaps I could have phrased it better;

Did not mean this as a parallel in terms of who is subjected to it. What makes it simillar
or paralell if you wish - Is Cruelty.





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>
>>>Srdjan,
>>>
>>>No, I am not talking about KGB archives, I'm referring to military communiques. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, a large number of records from the Defense Ministry and Party were declassified by the Russian government. Apparently, in the last few years, the Russian government has reimposed restrictions on access to those records. This is a fact and not an attempt to "recreate an arch-foe".
>>
>>This part I understand. What I was refering to was not directly your response, but actual deeds of your (outgoing)
>>policy makers. There one whole generations of politicians in US who should be greacefully sent to old age homes before they really
>>do some damage. (guys like Mc Cain, Lieberman etc)
>>Totally out of sync and touch with reality. Now they are not the ones who create policy, but from their voices you can
>>hear and sense one line of totally wrong politics which are actually being pursued.
>>My hope was that Obama will air out those rooms little bit and bring some new policies on the table,
>>but then he chose Hillary for foreign policy chief (total disaster {vbg}) so this hope is off that very window.
>>
>>>Something else to consider: In (and out) of Russia opponents to the government are being harrassed, jailed, and killed. Do you see that in the US?
>>
>>Someone else does on your behalf. (Google for 'rendition program')
>>
>>No. I suppose we have other uses of pollonium other than killing political dissidents with it. I suppose that the poisoning of the Ukrainian president had nothing to do with Russia?
>>
>>Orange Revolution ?
>>If sucess of 'revolution' had something to do with CIA activities and piles of money given to democracy seekers in Ukraine, then perhaps poisoning attempt could have something to do with KGB. But that is all very muddy and hard to draw any conclusions.
>>
>>>
>>>History shows that Russia has a history of liberal reform followed by ruthless nationalism. This happened in the 1870's and after 1905 and it might be argued that this is happening now after the liberalization of the 1990s.
>>>
>>>Srdjan, you must think me ill-informed and that you can tell me what the true Russia is. I noticed that you replied to someone on this thread that if they didn't know the Russian language that they missed out.
>>>
>>>Well, Srdjan, guess what? I not only read, write, and speak Russian but I have over 30 semester hours (the equivalent to 2-3 complete semesters) in Russian history and culture. I love the Russian people and have many Russian friends but I'm not going to overlook where Russia is heading because of that.
>>
>>That is cool :)
>>
>>>
>>>Open your eyes. If you're a Russophile, as I am, you should be concerned where the current government is heading.
>>
>>I am not Russophile nor am I anti-Russian. (or anti-anything else)
>>Russia stopped being a threat good 30 years ago. I don't see them being threat today unless they are seriosely provoked.
>>
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Srdjan Djordjevic
Limassol, Cyprus

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