>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Cesar,
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>While you're here. I thought Carlos Alloatti was from Brazil as well, but I see that he is from Argentina. Did he move or I was simply wrong?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>LOL
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Carlos was born and lives in Argentina.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anyway, I can tell you that he`s for sure one of the best people I met in the VFP forums...
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I consider him like he was a brazilian, hehehehe
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Just don't start a debate between Pele and Maradona please, :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Here we go... :)
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>>>>>>>>>>Maradona - the Argentinian football manager - would have been more appropriate as the volleyball coach!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Further endeared himself to the English the other day with unrepentant reference to the "Hand of God" incident:
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>>>>>>>>>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2008/nov/18/diego-maradona-argentina1
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>>>>>>>>>Maradona can make goal from anywhere of his body to England. Maradona is best!!! He is the WIZARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>>>>>>>He's a fat little freak from where I'm sitting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>He may have had excellent ball skills but offered little else. I think (hope) his managerial career is a disaster
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Come on, stop the hate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Maradona returned the proud to Argentinan people, he is respected a loved there. Don't insult him, he had problems, but it's really complicated to understand his life. For me he was the best footbal player ever, and maybe he scored one goal with the hand, but on the other one he danced with all the British team, it was simple amazing.
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>>>>>>>Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Luis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>there are many fine things in Argentina but if your hero is the fat coke man then I'm sad.
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>>>>>>People like Maradona set examples. Unfortunately his example was that its ok to profit by cheating. He knew it there was no grey area of doubt..I'd like him to reap what he sowed.
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>>>>>I never said he was my hero, I said he was the best player ever from my point of view, like for example pink floyd was the best band ever for me.
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>>>>>Maradona, had a difficult childhood, he was no ready to handle all the power he got after the world cup of 86,
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>>>>Not like he learned to handle the ball
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>>>>> and in Italy he was a lot influenced by the Italian mafia. When you don't have the education or family values to handle those situations, you can get in trouble really easy. No one is perfect.
>>>>>
>>>>>And did you liked the second goal he scored at the same match?
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>>>>But the decision to grant him the 1st goal changed the whole future of the game. The game was stopped, there was a kick-off, people were all in different positions, the England team's morale was blasted, etc.
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>>>>IOW, if not for the 1st goal he might never have got in the same position for the 2nd.
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>>>But jeez, it's not a hanging offense. Do you think he's the first player in history to accept a bad call by the refs? A baseball player who slides into home and is tagged out, but the ump calls him safe - should he jump up and argue that he was out? A tennis player who knows the ball was in but the ref calls it out in his favour - should he argue that he lost the point? Come on. It's the way sport has always been played. You get a break that you know you shouldn't have gotten, you accept it and go on. If you get a bad call against you, you accept it and go on. These guys are supposed to be professionals. If all it takes is a bad call to break them, they don't deserve to be there.
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>>As I opined in another branch - it should be! Given also the importance of the tournament.
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>>The examples you cite are of getting away with an advantageous accident or fluke - not blatantly and purposefully cheating.
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>Personally I'd be happy to see players found guilty of cheating (and there is usually plenty of TV evidence) suspended from playing for several games and hit with a big fine (big enough to hurt)

That would be good. But that would only fuel the debate after the match. I'd also like this video evidence to be relayed to the ref immediately, when it comes to contentious decisions like this. They have it with Cricket, don't they, and maybe rugby? Definitely with tennis, where they have the ref called out if the umpire can't be sure, and there's always "Hawkeye" to consult (which is used in cricket too).