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From
17/12/2008 01:35:55
Lutz Scheffler
Lutz Scheffler Software Ingenieurbüro
Dresden, Germany
 
 
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16/12/2008 09:20:52
Metin Emre
Ozcom Bilgisayar Ltd.
Istanbul, Turkey
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>>And the problem with turks and foreign? languages is well known in germany. Big problem with kids that have no chance to learn german.
>>anne is import (bad word but how to say? and we feel as they deal with) from Anatolia, baba is far away (working somewhere). No chance for any german to give simple messages.
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>>Agnes
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>>AFK
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>My cousin works at Mercedes factory at Germany. His children can't talk with turkish good. Their native language is German. My brother's wife is a german citizen turk. She says "I can talk good as like a german but however germans ask me if I understood them after a talk. It makes me angry".
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>Mother import from Anatolia, that's about old family members. My wife's cousin at Sweden. He fall in law with a greece girl but his father said him "If you marry with that christian girl, I will refuse you of my son". I said him "Uncle, I never seen you at a mosque or pray, why you refused him.". He just said that "I don't want a christian bride.".

We know about the concept you use with your family and there importance. To us this is archaic and always a part of misunderstanding. In this sence I support your uncle.
We have seen enough failed couples of this kind. Marriage is tricky with someone of the own culture?

I do not say that all turk fellows here are unable to speak german. But a lot of them are from a poor uneducated base (there was a reason to go to germany once ...). And it's a very hard start for a kid if the family does not share the community and language where they life. So they encapsulate. There is a research that some are more archaic (found no better word) now then the common people in your country. (You know "Keep to good old way of life alive")

We have good educated and able turks here as well. But normaly they are modest.

And I personaly think that those woman trade is a kind of torture. I understand the concept on an intellectual base. I understand its importance under some circumstances. (And its not that long ago that the things where equal on some parts of the german population). Imagine a girl that had adopted to german culture and speaks better german then turk and is sold to anatolya. Weird. Vice versa is not that easy to imagine, but a girl placed out of some village into the heart of a western city without any help is lost too.

Agnes
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