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18/12/2008 11:19:14
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Category:
Money
Title:
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
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It's doubtful that many believe government can cure all ills. It is equally clear that an unregulated free market will not always regulate itself. I sure wish the financial industry(-ies) had been better regulated in recent years, for example. It takes a balance between the two IMO.

>I would not prefer it, because I am aware of historical precedents of searching for this kind of "efficient government". As it was mentioned many times, i.e. not by me only, the road to the hell is paved with the best intentions. In political sense, it means exactly "efficient government" that will cure all ills.
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>>Wanting a Honest, Efficient government is communism?
>>Wouldn't you prefer to have one?
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>>The connection is that with Oil (and other products) taxpayers are picking up the costs, thus the costs taken from people without consent even if they don't use the product, by way of the Govt deciding whats best for us,
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>>>Price includes market cost, and I feel that your 'real or true cost' is something quite different. I see no connection between market cost and socialism, and no LOL may change it.
>>>In regard to your comment about 'ideal world government', I can only mention well-documented notion that every honest socialist believes in the ideal world as the next, post-socialism stage. It is called communism in most theoretical publications.
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>>>>In an ideal world, government would have the best interest of the population and long term sustainability as its core value, but obviously that is not what we are stuck with. Are you saying that the price of an item should not include it's real cost? That it should be subsidized by others? And you think my ideas are socialist LOL.
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>>>>>As soon as you use the word "should", i.e. price should include this, should include that and so on, then the next issue is to have someone or something deciding how much it should be, and the next step is to use government for this purpose, and it is called socialism. It is the matter of definition, after all. By the way, your claim that by increasing government control you avoid system 'corrupted by politics' is just illogical.
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>>>>>>I think supply and demand is a good system when all the variables are considered and the system is not corrupted by politics and other corruption. I believe ALL products should include all costs,
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