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31/12/2008 20:44:37
 
 
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31/12/2008 13:54:05
John Baird
Coatesville, Pennsylvania, United States
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Visual FoxPro
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VFP Compiler for .NET
Miscellaneous
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>>Also, do what I did. Simply buy the thing. $120 is not a big deal, and I'm sure to them at this point the more rapidly they see subscriptions coming in, the faster this thing will move. Not because they will be getting rich, but because everyone who is dedicated to a cause is motivated by seeing that there efforts are being used by other people.
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>This is the same thing that eventually killed VFP. Its sales to new versions/upgrades didn't keep pace with the costs. There are people here bemoaning the passing of VFP that are still using VFP 6.0. Those people aren't going to shell out the bucks to buy a new piece of technology to keep fox alive.

This has always been a source of irritation for me in our "community". Some very clever folks put out books, third party products etc and then people who were supposed to depend on Fox to make a living (and Lord knows it's been a really good one) wouldn't put their money on the table. I remember people agonizing about buying Hacker's Guide - in its day certainly a must-have for anybody who wanted to do Fox apps.

Frameworks - the best bargain I can imagine in this or .NET - were resisted - not by people who were capable of writing their own (though I still question how cost-effective that could be) but by people who had no real clue about how to really use an object oriented language to create serious applications that would scale who could have been up and productive very quickly with a good framework and some training. Stonefield, XFRX, VFE, MM, VPM, Drew's stuff, incredible books and articles from Tamar and Ted, Doug, Whil, Marsha and Andy, Cathy, Marcus, Rick and a whole lot of other very smart people who could have always made a lot more money in client work than putting the time into providing third party stuff.

And we get questions here on how to convert a VFP 6.0 app written against tables using FP 2.6 code to SQL server or .NET.

I say this both as someone who spent ten years in VFP doing framework training, mentoring and project rescue and who now is on the other side - buying a .NET framework (Strataframe) , investing in their training and then hiring a mentor to work with me 4-6 hours a week. I bought Red-gate tools for sql, ReportSharpshooter from Perpetuum Software ( HIGHLY recommended ) and god knows what else and haven't found any of it yet to be anything other than a no brainer in terms of ROI.

The tool builders have pretty much moved on. All the more reason to support those who are still left. The etechnologia folks are asking for one billable hour.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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