>>>>>In case you're wondering, the girls and I do have health insurance, paid for out of my pocket. It costs about $400 a month, which is $400 more than I am making at the moment. I am happier paying it, even though we hardly use it, because this way I can sleep at night. For a while we had no coverage and I passed more than one 3 a.m. worrying what would happen if some catastrophic medical situation arose.
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>>>>Health insurange should be pay by employers. We don't pay money for that there. I can go any public hospital or %95 of private hospitals (at private hospitals I should be pay a bit money).
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>>>>Just if you want to a really speacial health insurange you pay money there. Some employers pay that too...
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>>>I believe that health care should be available for all and more importantly, affordable for all.
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>>>However, I do not think that the cost should be born solely by employers. One of the great things about this country is the ability for anyone to start their own business and succeed at it. The cost of medical insurance for small businesses would be too prohibitive for small companies. I think it should be a shared expense: a percentage paid by employers and the remainder paid by individual taxes. The percentage paid by employers should also be stepped up or down based on net profit. The working would carry the unworking of course just as they do now but those in lower income brackets would be able to have affordable medical care.
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>>>Is that socialized medical care? Yes. I am ok with that.
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>>Do you agree that everyone should receive the same treatment, with no payment?
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>William makes a good point. There are services already that operate that way. Police for example, military. Why not health? Although, I do think (in spite of that fact that in Canada there are no such critera) that people with glaring self destructive tendencies (smokers, drinkers, gluttons, parachutists, bungee jumpers etc) who cause their own health issues, should not be allowed to receive free health care indefinitely. First time, ok, after that if they don't learn, then maybe they should be on their own.

Don't rush; you are looking for an argument that didn't start yet. I don't say that it is bad, I just try to rectify points before starting.