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>>>>>As for infer vs. imply, I'm not ready to surrender on that one yet.
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>>>>What do you mean by surrender? You don't mind the interchangeability or you do? if you ever saw the film Mrs Brown, re: the rel twixt Q Victoria and her Scottish retainer, there is a scene where he corrects the Prince of Wales on that very grammatical error. Now I know some dictionaries allow it nowadays but that's being forced by common use.
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>>>I meant that I don't consider them interchangeable and will continue to educate people about it.
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>>>>>>Oh, and "they were sat at the table" and "he was stood by the door"
>>>>>
>>>>>I've never seen either of those. Must be a local idiom where you are. But it reminds me of the phrasing they use out in western Pennsylvania and nearby areas: "That homework needs done."
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>>>>I don't find that as bad as the common usage (at least in GB) - "That homework needs doing." At least in PA the "to be" is "understood", I'd say equiv to "I'm bigger than he [is]".
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>>>
>>>Actually, while I prefer "That homework needs to be done," I'd recommend the one you dislike over the western PA version.
>>>
>>>Tamar
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>>Do you guys use the participle like this too? "That dinner wants [sic] cooking before the meat goes off", "The bins need emptying as the dustmen come tomorrow"
>>("The trash cans need emptying as the (operatives?) come tomorrow"
>>
>>Very common usage over here.
>
>You just gotta get down to Newfoundland sometime. You'd love it. - Hotten (to heat up), gut-foundered (hungry)

I've been close - PEI. And once spent a very interesting and great evening in Cheers in Boston, with a group of US and a Newfie firemen, on a course. We were delighted to find that we practically had the same accent.

You read/seen the film "Shipping News" BTW? A nice wee yarn about dem dere people.
- Whoever said that women are the weaker sex never tried to wrest the bedclothes off one in the middle of the night
- Worry is the interest you pay, in advance, for a loan that you may never need to take out.
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