>Oops..
>
>That is returning it with the root being the form name, and for some reason THAT is failing when used in a EVALUATE call.
>
>It returns
> "formquote.pageframe1.pageMtlSummary.grid1"
>
>but, when I pass that through Evalulate("formquote.pageframe1.pageMtlSummary.grid1"), it does not resolve it. It says "object formquote is not found."
>
>If the root is ThisForm it does work, but that is not what the sys() method returns.

You only need to replace the first part:

lparameters toRef
c=sys(1272, toRef)
lcRef="Thisform"+subs(c, at(".",c,1))
return c

There's no guarantee as to what the first node of the long reference will be - until the form.init() exits, it may be the form class name (plus a "1", "2" or something), then it may get a different name, depending on what's on the PEM sheet, whether .name was assigned somewhere, whether there are multiple instances of the form etc etc. Not reliable at all, but luckily, we don't need it.