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Kevin Goff has been (unfairly?) Banned - Week Two
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14/01/2009 10:53:08
 
 
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Politics
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Thread ID:
01302908
Message ID:
01373561
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>>>>>>>Facts != Truth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hmm. So something can be a fact but not true?
>>>>>
>>>>>A set of facts, each individually true, may not sum up to the "truth".
>>>>
>>>>Can you give an example ?
>>>
>>>Fact: Israel has been bombing the Gaza
>>>Fact: Those bombs have killed children
>>>
>>>What's the truth: Israel is a country of monsters who bomb the Gaza in order to kill children?
>>>
>>>Unless you have all the facts (and whoever does?), the facts you have don't necessarily add up to 'truth'.
>>
>>I fail to understand your argument (unless,of course, you are claiming that the third statement is the 'truth')
>
>The third statement is a 'truth' that might be gleaned from the facts presented. It illustrates the statement that you led you to want an example. If that's not what you want, then I don't understand what issue you're having with his statement.

By definition a 'truth' must be true.
The third statement can be no more than, at best, a supposition based on the two preceding facts.
Stating that 'Facts != Truth' is the same as 'Truth != Facts' which is not possible - either it is not the truth or the facts are not facts.
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