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Kevin Goff has been (unfairly?) Banned - Week Two
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14/01/2009 11:20:51
 
 
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Politics
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Thread ID:
01302908
Message ID:
01373588
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>>>>>>>>>Facts != Truth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hmm. So something can be a fact but not true?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A set of facts, each individually true, may not sum up to the "truth".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can you give an example ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Fact: Israel has been bombing the Gaza
>>>>>Fact: Those bombs have killed children
>>>>>
>>>>>What's the truth: Israel is a country of monsters who bomb the Gaza in order to kill children?
>>>>>
>>>>>Unless you have all the facts (and whoever does?), the facts you have don't necessarily add up to 'truth'.
>>>>
>>>>I fail to understand your argument (unless,of course, you are claiming that the third statement is the 'truth')
>>>
>>>The third statement is a 'truth' that might be gleaned from the facts presented. It illustrates the statement that you led you to want an example. If that's not what you want, then I don't understand what issue you're having with his statement.
>>
>>By definition a 'truth' must be true.
>>The third statement can be no more than, at best, a supposition based on the two preceding facts.
>>Stating that 'Facts != Truth' is the same as 'Truth != Facts' which is not possible - either it is not the truth or the facts are not facts.
>
>I take it then that you either missed or ignored the quotation marks he place around the word 'truth'.

Wasn't that in your message? What was the purpose - were they meant to imply it was not a truth? If so then I understand the argument even less :-{
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