>>>>>>>>>Facts != Truth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hmm. So something can be a fact but not true?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A set of facts, each individually true, may not sum up to the "truth".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Can you give an example ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Fact: Israel has been bombing the Gaza
>>>>>Fact: Those bombs have killed children
>>>>>
>>>>>What's the truth: Israel is a country of monsters who bomb the Gaza in order to kill children?
>>>>>
>>>>>Unless you have all the facts (and whoever does?), the facts you have don't necessarily add up to 'truth'.
>>>>
>>>>I fail to understand your argument (unless,of course, you are claiming that the third statement is the 'truth')
>>>
>>>The third statement is a 'truth' that might be gleaned from the facts presented. It illustrates the statement that you led you to want an example. If that's not what you want, then I don't understand what issue you're having with his statement.
>>
>>By definition a 'truth' must be true.
>>The third statement can be no more than, at best, a supposition based on the two preceding facts.
>>Stating that 'Facts != Truth' is the same as 'Truth != Facts' which is not possible - either it is not the truth or the facts are not facts.
>
>Facts are true by definition.
Agreed
>They can be combined to describe or explain a truth.
Sounds a bit a**-backwards but OK
>However, if the presented facts are incomplete (i.e. some are missing) then so the truth being described will be at least partially false or incomplete.
Getting a bit stuck on a partially false truth......
>Even if all the facts are true.......
(see your first statement)
>..... and all available we are left with the problem of accepting / interpreting / understanding them objectively (not possible) in order to
determine the truth.
Acceptance of facts should be a given. And if you reach a conclusion based on faulty interpretation or by being subjective then the truth of that conclusion is not sufficiently demonstrated and remains a supposition.

It's a complex issue which cannot be reduced to 'Facts != Truth' .
I think I started this by claiming that 'Fact != Truth' was inherently false anyway.