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Grouch of the Day - Reflexive pronouns
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14/01/2009 22:57:13
 
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>>I myself applaud you in your efforts to curb self-abuse.
>
>But changing the habit would be so selfless.

Yes, it would be hard.

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>
>>>>>>>>Use of these is getting worse. Some examples, not from real life, but typical of what I've experienced/heard a lot lately:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Hi Mr McDonnell. I was wondering if our offer has reached yourself yet."
>>>>>>>>"Could you manage to make payment to ourselves by the end of the week."
>>>>>>>>"We're sending the order to yourselves direct."
>>>>>>>>"There's just myself and yourself here."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't you just love those? In fact, a couple of my friends were talking to myself about this just the other day. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The moronic rule of thumb would appear to be "if the sentence requires a pronoun, replace it with one of those pronouns with 'self/selves' on the end"
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, drives me nuts, too. Here's what I have about this on my website (http://www.tomorrowssolutionsllc.com/writingtips.htm):
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't abuse the "self" words. These words ("myself," "yourself," etc.) belong in a sentence only if the corresponding pronoun has already appeared. For example, this is correct:
>>>>>
>>>>>"I'll take care of it myself."
>>>>>
>>>>>But this is wrong:
>>>>>
>>>>>"He had a meeting with John and myself."
>>>>>
>>>>>That should be:
>>>>>
>>>>>"He had a meeting with John and me."
>>>>>
>>>>>Tamar
>>>>
>>>>Interesting. I learned it somewhat differently. I learned that myself should only be used if the subject is 'you.' As in:
>>>>
>>>>I'll take care of it myself. I'm the subject so I can use myself.
>>>>Mary gave a gift to John and me. I'm not the subject so I can't use myself.
>>>>
>>>>I tend to speak by habit now, but when I was in school, I used 'myself' if I used 'I' as the subject earlier in the sentence.
>>>
>>>As in "I, me, myself, personally speaking, like ..."? :-)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Or is that what you meant by 'corresponding pronoun?'


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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