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Kevin Goff has been (unfairly?) Banned - Week Two
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From
16/01/2009 18:57:42
 
 
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16/01/2009 13:03:06
Walter Meester
HoogkarspelNetherlands
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>>>>>I must be misunderstanding you. It sounds like you are saying the Dutch have been stained by allowing Muslim immigrants. If that is what you meant, how is it any different from what the Nazis said in the 1930s?
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>>>>Not at all. I am saying that relatively homogeneous societies invite a radical change of their culture if they try to absorb large number of people with no intention to assimilate. Assimilation is very powerful for both sides. Otherwise, you have a situation like the African immigrants to France. It has nothing to do with who the immigrants are, only with their attitudes about their host. If you move to Britain to become your unique flavor of British, everyone wins (look at the Indian immigrants) If you move to Britain to change Britain to match the place you a leaving, you a simply another kind of invader.
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>>>>The EU in general has adopted an immigration policy - for purely cheap labor reasons - that is going to have a very high social cost and I don't know how European values are going to be reconciled with a large and growing minority that has complete contempt for those values.
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>>>Where did you get that one from ?? This is not what we experience here.
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>>Walter, I was hearing rumblings such as those, to which Mr. Hankey refers, in the 1960s when I was in Germany.
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>This policy that charles refers to, does not exist anymore for at least 30 years !!! Currently there is enough workingforce within the EU.
>And the EU won't make the mistake again to get the workforce out of remote areas with a total different culture.

I agree policies have adjusted, but it is very difficult to control borders with distances so close and the populations that came in 20 years ago have not assimilated in many cases and are growing, while the "native" population is declining.


Charles Hankey

Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin

Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
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