Nope, only the "append a new record and fill in the needed keys" portion is a snap with INSERT INTO. All the remaining part - getting the grid to refresh correctly, handling combos and other non-textbox controls, making sure the ADD button knows whether you're adding a new child record from the grid or adding a new parent record from the remainder of the form (no pageframes for this client) etc. - are STILL a real hassle :-)

Barbara

>Barbara-
>Actually, with INSERT INTO, it's a snap! ;-)
>...snip
>>The only exception I see is in grids using the built-in parent/child relations, where you MUST have the foreign key too. And if you're adding records to grids you deserve ALL the trouble you get < grin >. I've only done ONE app with grid editing, but it was a real hassle.