>One of the real problems though, is that whatever stats I've seen seem to show that any sort of torture only elicits answers the torturer wants, and generally have little to do with reality. I honestly don't believe that torture of any sort, has ever been shown to be effective in getting at the truth. People will say anything under torture to make it stop. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to tell my dentist where the gold is buried, but he knows I'm probably making it up.
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>The other problem is in your own statement - "they may very well be worth detaining". It's that 'may' word that bothers me. I wonder how many people who are completely innocent of everything are being 'detained'. If there are such people, and by assuming guilt without a trial, we'll never know, then it's a horrible compromise on what is supposed to be an open and honest democracy.
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>When you start 'detaining' innocents, you are denigrating the very ideals on which the country purports to stand and if the country no longer stands for those ideals, what's left?

Free Market ?