>>>I thought we were in agreement that it isn't right to hold people for years without charges or trial. Try 'em or kick 'em loose. The only difference between this and what Stalin or Saddam Hussein would have done is they would have simply executed the prisoners by now. Is that really the company we want to keep?
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>>>Notice I am not addressing whether they are guilty or innocent. I imagine most of them were taken into custody for good reason. So try them already.
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>>Under what legal system? Presumption of innocence, Miranda warning, chain-of-evidence, full disclosure to the defense?
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>>If it were that easy, it would have been done by now, if only for convenience and to make room for more.
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>When will people get it that these are enemy combatants, not suspects? A third of these detainees are classified as too dangerous to release, even though there is not enough evidence to prosecute. Personally, if they are that dangerous, I would drop them off in the middle of the ocean and let them swim to any country they want. . . .
Yeah, we're pretty much on the same page on that one. If they were a legitimate green-light with a red-dot on them I would think their welfare isn't the top priority..l
Hey, question for you while I have you here : watching TV for the last couple years I see everybody with a pistol going out of their way to hold the trigger finger outside the trigger guard - even when pointing at somebody armed and threatening immediate fire! I even see criminals holding it that way. I get that in uncertain situations you don't want accidental discharge, and maybe I'm freaked because I have really long fingers and just getting my finger inside the guard could be a project, but has training really changed so much? ( I'm so old nobody ever mentioned to me I might not want to have my finger in a good-to-go position from the minute I decided there was a chance I might want something to come out of the end with a hole in it.) . Best case, jerky motion getting finger in place, Worst case, never getting a chance to get finger where it might do some good. Seems that in the real world this would be a recipe for getting dead.
(the analogy with legal rights for terrorists kind of reminded me of this)
Charles Hankey
Though a good deal is too strange to be believed, nothing is too strange to have happened.
- Thomas Hardy
Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.
-- T. S. Eliot
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.
- Ben Franklin
Pardon him, Theodotus. He is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
