>>When you run the test bench and invoke a method to retrieve an OrderEntity you will see null values only for the private variables. If you hover your mouse over the little arrow below that box, it will scroll down where you can see the values of the actual properties. The properties should have values. Can you confirm that is the case for you or are you getting null values in the properties as well?
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>>tim
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>Tim,
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>Thanks for pointing that out. It turns out I do have values in the actual properties. So this is working, I see now. I didn't grasp that I was only looking at private variables that were not populated and that there was other data to be seen underneath.
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>I am running the latest version of MM Framework (after a patch was posted in November). Do you have any ideas why a number of us are getting the same error in the sample app (previous messages on this thread)? Can ~you~ run the sample app successfully and open the customer orders form?
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>Guy

Hi Guy,

Yes, I just completed re-doing the jumpstart business and the jumpstart windows forms and I can retrieve Customer Orders, Details come in perfect as do the shippers and Employees. No errors at all. There are several little things along the way that are easy to miss. I have missed things before and had something not work when I didn't understand what everything did. Working through it carefully solved the problem. This time I had no problems. I hope that gives you a confidence that if you work through it again, you may find what you missed.
Tim