And where in the world would you go.
I can't think of a country that offers the sort of 0 taxation and government you seem to crave.



>>What concerns me most about this entire situation is the sequence of events. We start out with toxic assets. That has been the case for years but it came to a breaking point recently. The financing dries up and the media builds on it and builds on it and what happens? It gets worse. Then congress has to act and they throw money out there but not where it should go. The media keeps on and on and on. Now the country is in a panic and banks aren't loaning money so people stop buying. What happens? More businesses die. More people without jobs and no spending. It just escalates and escalates. In the midst of all this both presidents (Bush and Obama) employ the media to coerce the public into contacting their congressman to act to support their agenda. The stimulus bill looks to me to be a huge liberal/socialist bill(s) hidden inside a supposedly stimulus package. The majority was all democrat policy changes. Too much like Lenin to me. Tell the country the end is near unless something is done in order to push through your monster changes. Lie to the public that it will be available for review before voting. How fast can you read 1000 pages? If the changes can stand on their own, they can go through congress on their own and not hidden.
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>>Where is the stimulus package? There is a small one inside the package and hopefully it will work. Jobs will manifest from it (they mostly exist already) but most will be low income and unskilled labor from illegal immigrants I fear.
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>>So, do we all become construction workers and who will hire us when they can hire illegal immigrants so much cheaper?
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>>What's the deficit now? 1.4 trillion this year? Oh well, I'm sure the Chinese and Saudis will bail us out (again)... What's next? Will we all be living under Saudi law or restricted to 1 child per family to keep welfare costs down?
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>Your analysis of how this became a crisis so quickly is on the mark. We have been in an economic crisis for decades due to real estate and stock market stupidity, but it took the press and the government to cause a full blown panic which then snowballs out of control. The press has demonstrated it's abilities to start and lose wars, destroy people and companies, eliminate moral values, and now destroy the US economy as a whole.
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>The Chinese economy will be affected as badly as most of the west due to their reliance on exports to the west, so they won't be loaning us much if anything in the near future (they'll want to call in loans instead). The Saudis and other oil producers will have relatively bad times for the forseeable future due to slumping travel. If any western nations actually function smartly, their absolute priority for government spending will be on non-oil based energy independence (of course, the US will pay lip service only again).
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>So now we add another quick $trillion to the deficit w/o a clue what it will do, while the government and industries decide where to throw the next unknown number of trillions of dollars since taxpayers haven't forcefully stopped the insanity yet.
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>I apologised to my youngest son this morning for the country stealing so much from him before he even has a vote or a job. My family had a discussion on how to proceed when the next theft of our future income occurs. It may mean we head elsewhere (out of the US).
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>FWIW it wouldn't suprise me to see Obama and the majority of the federal government skip the country with the likely proceeeds from graft they'll receive off the current robbery.. er.. stimulus. That's surely more than their federal salaries and benifits combined.
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>>>I understand the point you are making is emotional rather than academic or intellectual, but for history's sake - comparisons of Obama and Lincoln - other than that they are lawyers elected from Illinois, good at making speeches - is rather silly. Unless, of course, you find comparisons of John Kennedy to King Arthur to be sound, in which case I guess it makes perfect sense <s>
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>>>>Yesterday was the 200th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln's birth. Sometimes it feels like he's still here, doesn't it? The parallels between him and Barack Obama have been drawn enough times to probably be excessive. (My favorite: a New Yorker cover with Abe sitting in his memorial, a glow lighting the scene). But they do have a certain kinship. We will see if Obama lives up to the standard. I think he can if he gets over the need to be liked.
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>>>>One of the places I used to live was Cincinnati. I did a lot of traveling at the time so spent a lot of time at the airport. There was a framed copy of the Gettysburg Address on the wall and I stopped to read it every time. It's still powerful enough to give you a shiver. The ironic thing is it was no big deal at the time. He didn't think much of it himself, just another public appearance. According to historians there was little if any applause. It consisted of barely 300 words and was delivered in two minutes.
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>>>>Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
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>>>>Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
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>>>>But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.