When you're overdrawn the banks stiffs you with extra charges for being overdrawn. When you've got this infection you can't get the downloads you need!!!

So I'm kept away from AVG, Windows, et al, updates. The evidence is certainly pointing to this type of infection, preventing its own cure. Damn! I guess I'll have to get the files on a stick from another puter.

Seems a good call, Sergey.

BTW, when I check for windows updates, via Windows defender, i get 0x80190194 error "The program can't check for ... updates".

>See if 'Open different internet places' Thread #1377595 Message #1377627 can help.
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>>Doesn't it just! And not helped by the fact that I can't update to prevent such happening
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>>>It sounds like your computer is infected with some kind of malware that prevents access to antivirus web sites.
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