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I wonder how much of this is true?
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23/02/2009 08:01:42
 
 
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23/02/2009 00:37:35
Walter Meester
HoogkarspelPays-Bas
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Politics
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>>If any of this is true, it's an eye opener, of which we need be aware.
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>>http://www.downundernewslinks.com/2008/09/09/what-islam-is-not/
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>Highly polarising.. Abuse of data to draw conclusions. Disgusting attempt to spread islamofobia.
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>Even if the presenting is true, this is munging the data in such way that there is only one thing left to conclude. (Analogy to the topic of how to make statistic lie)
>lso see my sig: Data < > Information, Information < > Knowledge and Knowledge < > Understanding
>This video, takes a few random pieces of data (World events) and wants to force you understanding with skipping the information and knowledge step. No-one with a right mind should ever take this video seriously without any backup of their data and provide plausable information and show knowledge of understanding the issue.
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>But common. Yes we do have problems with marrocan youth up here, but that IMO does not have *ANYTHING * to do with islam, but rather their culture and background.
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>The example of demanding Halal food... demanding form who ? And whats the problem. If they want to import halal food, so let it be. And if supermarkets see $ on providing that, so what?
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>As far as riots... Well, how were they rooted to islam? And can that be proven? France is notoriuous for riots throughout the centuries, well before islam was present there. Riots happen everywhere... Ever went to a footbal (soccer) game in europe? What about the riots in Greece lately? Riots do have causes and it seldom has anything to do with religion.
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>What I do agree upon is that many religious muslim tend to have 'long toes', get insulted very easily, even if you do not intend to. They show behaviour of feeling 'Inferiour', and out of frustration do whatever neccesary to be take seriously. I think much of their problems are political and maybe rooted in not having a seperation between state and church. But how different was the western world a couple of centuries ago? And don't we remember all the hard fighting in Northern Ireland?
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>Please...

There is some evidence that 'culture' is more the cause than religion in some cases. Not riots, but honor killings exist even among christian arabs. It appears to derive from the more uneducated and poorer areas where tribal justice was the norm for centuries. However, even though the killings may not occur as much among the wealthy and educated, there is seldom condemnation from the upper class when it does occur. And, sadly, honor killings happen inside arab families in western countries as well regardless of the economic situation.
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