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Wall Street Journal OP Obama's Radicalism Is Killing the
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09/03/2009 11:53:46
 
 
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Politics
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Thread ID:
01386150
Message ID:
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>>>SNIP
>>>>>Your statement implied that those who voted for Obama voted for him only because of his race. Since he won, that implies that the majority of Americans voted based on race. I simply find that offensive. Did I misunderstand your statement? I also stated (I thought quite clearly) that it was indeed a major point in our history, very emotional, and after he won, perhaps people are still emotional and not looking at the details of his policies which I thought supported your claim to some extent.
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>>>>My message implied that many people considered race-breaking factor very important, and I don't see how it could be construed as offensive. After all, many people said it in media, and some board members said it here. I wonder why other people, including your reply, can say it and it is Ok, but in my message it must be labeled as offensive.
>>>>The idea to link my message with the point that race was the only factor was a bogus, i.e. it was invented on spot to deflect attention (by playing noble indignation) from the factual part of my message. In my opinion, any reply that involves cutting down the previous message should be suspected as a deliberate misinterpretation, usually on strawman lines.
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>>>Interesting that because I interpreted your message differently than you intended (which I asked about mysel in my reply), you decide that it was a deliberate misinterpretation? What would I gain by that? I don't get it, but I will state that is not the case and you can choose to believe me or not.
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>>First of all, my message was cut down not by you, so again you talk about unrelated factor. What's more important, imho, is that you evade more serious point. Do you still (after additional deliberations) consider my message offensive and, if the answer is 'yes', then how you explain it? It is even more relevant taking into consideration that the message was not directed to you, neither it had any direct correlation to you because, by your own words, you didn't even vote for the guy.
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>As I recall, I stated that it was my first reaction, not my final reaction. So no, after your clarifications, I do not view your message as offensive. However, I think I will refrain from commenting further, because my interpretation right now is that you simply want to argue and I don't typically argue just for arguments sake.

My only concern in this particular exchange was to clear up 'offensive' issue. As you withdraw it, this exchange can definitely end.
Edward Pikman
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