>>>Do we have a new Amish converrt amongst us? ;-)
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>>Nope, more of a Jeffersonian. The more I hear of how he envisioned the functioning of the Republic, and how there wasn't any room for banks in that vision, the more I like him.
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>Just take a peek at page 346:
>http://books.google.com/books?id=y1_R-rjdcb0C&pg=PA346&lpg=PA346&dq=adams+jefferson+banks&source=bl&ots=TthAYlejha&sig=lPrf-mO1iSuZjY0f59gOUResiuI&hl=en&ei=o0a2ScruF4_Htge21dCrCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result

That.

Of course, I'm not imagining plantation is a paradise. But anything that creates value by borrowing it, i.e. charges interest or just invents money which doesn't exist... is theft. Whenever I hear "leverage", I remember a grafitto from back home:

"Give me a lever, and I will move
your kidneys"