>>>>>>>>>>Well put.
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>>>>>>>>>>The news yesterday said that the markets have not lost this much after a new president has taken office in over 90 years. But Obama has made it pretty clear that he hates Wall Street, so this really shouldn't come as any surprise.
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>>>>>>>>>lol
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>>>>>>>>Dow heading for huge one-day gain - must be the effects of the new president ... :0
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>>>>>>>And as they chant at Football grounds "Its all gone quiet over there"
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>>>>>>I don't expect the silence to continue. The whining is going to go on for 4 years or 8 years, no matter what Obama does.
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>>>>>I expect he'll just carry on manipulating the stock market on a day to day or even minute to minute basis. (probably for personal gain so he can invest in left wing groups seeking to overthrow the USA)
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>>>>Yeah, he is trying to turn them into something as bad, socialist and as uncivilised as Europe! Darn, somebody better stop him!
>>>>We have to stand up and fight, for our right - to gauge DowJones index and property prices as we want ! {g}
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>>>"Socialist" seems to be the current epithet of choice among American conservatives.
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>>Some of us have been using it for years...if the shoe fits and all.
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>>>You wonder how much they understand about European socialism.
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>>Can't speak for others, but for myself I understand enough to know that I despise the entire concept as it goes against everything history has taught us about drive, ambition and the ability to achieve.
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>>>Some of those countries are doing better than we are by about any measure.
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>>I'll bite. Name some European countries that are doing better than America by about any measure.
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>Take your pick of the Scandinavian countries for starters.

Very difficult I think to measure this really. Quality of life, GDP , health care, defence budget, gun ownership to name a few. Almost impossible to come up with a measure everyone would agree with.

But I would say that when the loony right describe Obama as a socialist. Well they have no idea what socialism is.