>>Some of those countries are doing better than we are by about any measure.
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>I'll bite. Name some European countries that are doing better than America by about any measure.

Canada isn't a European country, but is fairly socialist, especially the province where I live, Saskatchewan. Canada and especially Saskatchewan are doing much better economically than the U.S. right now. You may have seen a news piece on Saskatchewan last week (http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/04/saskatchewan.economy/); it was the number 1 read article on CNN.com that day.

Doug